Tuesday, April 17, 2007

50 Rounds Called "Unremarkable"

It turns out the psycopath who killed all the people at Virginia Tech bought his gun a month ago along with 50 (!) rounds. The man who sold him this weapon described the purchase as "unremarkable."

"John Markell said Cho Seung-Hui was very low-key when he purchased the gun and 50 rounds of ammunition with a credit card in an "unremarkable" purchase."


At 5:32 PM, Blogger Data Guy said...

I'm as anti-gun as anyone, but let's try to keep our heads. 50 rounds is basically the smallest unit that ammo can be purchased in. 50 rounds is pretty much nothing as far as ammo goes. So, I think your comment is not very serious as a problem.

At 5:58 PM, Blogger Cliff Schecter said...

But data guy, I think he is getting at the basic point. There is a reason it is the smallest amount and unremarkable. And that says something in itself, doesn't it?

At 6:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I'm not sure it would be "remarkable". 9mm ammunition typically comes in 50 round boxes. I shoot 200-400 a week at paper targets or steel plates.

He probably said "how many boxes do you want" and the guy said "one". Now if he had asked for 5 rounds or 5,000 rounds it would be a bit unusual. But one 50 round box is... well, unremarkable.

At 8:02 PM, Blogger Data Guy said...

ut data guy, I think he is getting at the basic point. There is a reason it is the smallest amount and unremarkable. And that says something in itself, doesn't it?

I guess I'm really dense. Can you quit beatin' around the bush and just tell me, straight out: What does the purchase of 50 rounds mean? I don't think it means diddly-squat, but that could just be me....

At 8:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think what Cliff is saying is that 50 rounds is too many. Maybe you should only be allowed to buy 5 rounds at a time?

I usually buy 500-1000 at a time but I burn through that many in a week or two during the Summer.

At 8:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, and just in case someone thinks I'm a right wing nut I'm pro women's right to choose, pro universal healthcare, pro gay marriage and just about any other issue you can name on the left. Hell, I'm a card-carrying member of the ACLU. I'm also pro-constitution and that includes every one of the amendments in the Bill of Rights.

I do like to shoot. I compete in 10-12 matches every Summer using a pistol, rifle and shotgun, so if I don't keep up the practice I get rusty.


At 9:20 PM, Blogger GottaLaff said...

Bush thinks 3,308 is unremarkable, too. You know, just a "comma".

At 9:44 PM, Blogger Robert said...

Having been a shooter for nearly fifty years, I don't recall ever buying a box of less than fifty, with the exception of obsolete or antique special order in a box of twenty. Totally unremarkable.

At 1:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Bush thinks 3,308 is unremarkable, too. You know, just a "comma"."

Now that is a whole different story. How about the one hundred and sixty some odd killed in Iraq today? This is on track for being the bloodiest month in Iraq.


At 4:38 PM, Blogger GottaLaff said...

Good point, Chris. Come to think of it, Iraqis don't even count as a comma to him.

At 8:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I found this ATF agent's comments silly:

In the photos Cho sent to NBC, he showed some of his ammunition — hollow-point rounds. Law enforcement officials say hollow-points are generally considered more lethal.

"It's not something that you would need for home protection, because what you are trying to do is eliminate an immediate threat," Vince says. "The idea of killing is what this ammunition portrays to me."

What kind of ammunition do ATF agents use? You can bet your sweet ass they use hollowpoints.

Hollowpoint ammunition is exactly what you want to "eliminate an immediate threat". It has much less chance of overpenetrating and going into another person or through a wall than a round nose bullet.

I think all this focusing on what he used is silly. Focus on the killer. He was a freak. He should have been institutionalized or at leasted treated for his psychological illness. Somehow he wasn't. That's what people should be screaming about.

And yes, I use hollowpoint ammunition.

Chris, the gun toting liberal.


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